An actual conversation

" 'That would be like saying that milk, cheese, and such, are called '''dairy products''' because farmers would dare each other to pull on the cows' udders.' "
"That's how I'm going to define it from now on."
"And the supporters of Proposition 8 think you should have that right. Or maybe they think you shouldn't, I'm not quite sure."

Yeah, it's a bad sign for a position if its proponents can't explain it well enough for people to make fun of it.